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Steve the Hammer
3:11 Fri Aug 21
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Infidel,
Are you blaming all data hacks on spotty geeks in messy bedrooms? Or just this particular one?
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Mike Oxsaw
1:59 Fri Aug 21
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Ah, The joys of the cloud.
Still. CAN'T happen to ME because all the sites I use have promised (PROMISED) they're 100% safe and I so much want to believe them it must be true.
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worm
1:42 Fri Aug 21
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Apparently some Australian bird phoned up a radio station that asked people to call in and they would check who was on the list.
Her husband was on it. She found out live on air.
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Gentleman Jim
12:47 Fri Aug 21
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Gavros, that's probably 180 women. The 1.8 million men that signed up will be told not to do it again.
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Gavros
12:20 Fri Aug 21
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Apparently 180 people in Saudi now face the death penalty for wing signed up to this for either adultery or being gay.
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Infidel
9:26 Fri Aug 21
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I wonder what the profile of the hackers of AM is?
On second thoughts, I don't need to.
We already know that (a) they are computer coding geeks and (b) they spend all of their spare time in their bedrooms tapping away at a computer, which makes them social misfits.
I am not a techie myself but I imagine it takes a lot of dedication to select a website to hack and then actually carry out the hack.
I think it's safe to conclude that these unwashed, stubble-faced, acne-ridden sexually-frustrated dudes are not highly motivated by a sense of moral outrage at married adults conducting affairs.
Much more likely is that they just like hacking stuff. In the absence of actually having a life it must add a certain frisson to the otherwise monotonous daysof losers sitting in their room surrounded by pizza boxes. AM is the victim not because of what it offers its members but because it's not very well protected.
If further proof were needed of this theory look no further than the hackers' own justification for releasing the users' data.They claim it is to punish AM for lying about the deletion of data of members who are cancelling their subscription. Aside from the fact that this is a fairly trivial 'crime' the punishment is directed not at AM but at its users, many of whom will now have their lives ruined.
Thousands of divorces, wrecked families, careers destroyed - and no doubt suicides given the shame some will be subjected to - are not a fair and reasonable price to pay for AM failing to delete data properly.
At some point the geeks (or maybe there is only one) will be caught and will doubtless claim that he didn't realise what he was doing, that it was just a bit of fun.
AM was providing a very useful social service. It is not illegal to have an affair and there are many reasons for doing so. It is not immoral for an internet site to make it easier for adults to meet each other. It is no different to any other dating site. But for the site to be useful users have to be able to write intimate messages to each other. Unfortunately an intimate message on a dating site is an embarrassing message in any other context which is why the data is so damaging.
This hack serves no useful social purpose. If the hacking fraternity wants to do something socially useful they should hack into the Swiss banks and tell us who hold accounts there and what payments they have made into those accounts - so we can arrest them and finally stamp out corruption. I am absolutely convinced that half the political class in Europe (and all of the elite in Brussels) would be in jail if those accounts ever became public.
If the AM hacker ever wants to redeem himself after this atrocious misjudgement he can get to work on the secretive private banks and earn some respect from the rest of us.
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Mr Polite
4:10 Thu Aug 20
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Who needs a site like that when we get sexy ladies like Jzoolia Wright-Trapesi willing to travel hundreds of miles for a bit of east end meat
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Steve the Hammer
4:09 Thu Aug 20
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I read in the BBC article on this that AM is a premium site, so customers paid to use their services.
It's likely that the hackers were simply after the credit card data. The fact that they are exposing people's infidelity is probably just a bonus to the hackers as it creates media attention and they may be able to sell the data they stole for more money. Lack of a verification email to sign up suggests there were probably many other weaknesses in AM's information security.
They may have been hacked because of their controversial business but I reckon they were hit because they were an easy target.
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WorldCupWilly
3:04 Thu Aug 20
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Branded - most morally dodgy sites would use email verification - you don't complete the registration process until you've clicked on a link that was sent in an email to you after you first registered. These guys didn't do that - you just entered an email address and password - that's it you were fully registered.
Nurse - ask Soldo as to his thoughts about receiving constant email updates informing him of willing partners for his penchant for gay threesome encounters with him and his black lab! The site didn't need to be hacked for this to happen.
I think a worse thing would be if this site was hacked and all our email addresses were used to sign up to that site!
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BRANDED
1:56 Thu Aug 20
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I've often thought that it would always be a pretty horrible way to fuck someone up. I guess people are using famous emails all the time to register on all kinds of morally dodgy sites.
More importantly. Who in fucks name would use their proper email address to do anything like this?
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Nurse Ratched
1:53 Thu Aug 20
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It's a rather protracted and flukey way to maliciously target someone, isn't it?
Find our their email address, surreptitiously sign them up to an adultery website, then sit back for years on the off-chance the site might get hacked by moral vigilantes who dump the data online?
Can think of more obvious ways to hurt and annoy someone via the internet.
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cholo
1:42 Thu Aug 20
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WorldCupWilly 1:09 Thu Aug 20
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Or at least that's what you told Mrs Worldcupwilly!
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Norflundon
1:40 Thu Aug 20
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Who's Ashley Maddison and is she any good....????
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Nurse Ratched
1:11 Thu Aug 20
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Yes, yes.
Er...that's exactly how my name came to be on the list.
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WorldCupWilly
1:09 Thu Aug 20
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So Nurse - all someone needed to know was your email address and they could have signed you up for it. You would occasionally get an email from the site that someone that was particularly interested in the 'things' that interested you that had been specified in your profile. These emails typically ended up in your Spam folder and if you did notice them you would think that they were spam anyway and just ignore them.
That's why they appear to have so many subscribers - many of them are hoax or set up without people realising them. That's one of the biggest problems with the security breach - there's going to be many people who didn't sign up themselves but other people did using their email address.
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Nurse Ratched
12:10 Thu Aug 20
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It does indeed. I am rather surprised by the lax security.
Naturally my heart bleeds purple piss for the adulterers.
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cholo
12:02 Thu Aug 20
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Worldcupwilly
That sounds like an astounding security oversight for an allegedly discreet website
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Nurse Ratched
11:25 Thu Aug 20
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Uh?
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WorldCupWilly
11:23 Thu Aug 20
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You didn't need to have your email address being hacked for someone to use it - all you needed was to know someone's email address and use that to sign up. There was no verification of email addresses. People were going through the cc list of email addresses when they received spam email and signing up using those addresses or email addresses that were publicly available.
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Nurse Ratched
11:22 Thu Aug 20
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*chuckles@ Cholo*
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cholo
11:15 Thu Aug 20
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There are a few search engines popping up where you can search for email addresses.
I checked mine and can confirm no one has hacked it and used it to open an account there!
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